# Sub Sub > Mediated Wiki article. Canonical URL: https://mediated.wiki/source/Sub_Sub > Markdown URL: https://mediated.wiki/source/Sub_Sub.md > Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_Sub > Source revision: 1327294205 > License: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) {{Short description|English musical group}} {{Use dmy dates|date=February 2025}} {{Use British English|date=August 2015}} {{Refimprove|date=September 2009}} {{Infobox musical artist | name = Sub Sub | image = | caption = | background = group_or_band | origin = [Handforth](/source/Handforth), [Cheshire](/source/Cheshire), England | genre = [House](/source/House_music), [EDM](/source/Electronic_dance_music), [alternative dance](/source/alternative_dance), [Madchester](/source/Madchester) | years_active = 1991–1996 | label = [Rob's Records](/source/Rob's_Records) | spinoffs = [Doves](/source/Doves_(band)) | past_members = [Jez Williams](/source/Jez_Williams)
[Jimi Goodwin](/source/Jimi_Goodwin)
[Andy Williams](/source/Andy_Williams_(Doves)) }} '''Sub Sub''' were an English [dance](/source/dance_music) act from [Handforth](/source/Handforth), [Cheshire](/source/Cheshire) composed of [Jimi Goodwin](/source/Jimi_Goodwin) and twin brothers [Andy](/source/Andy_Williams_(Doves)) and [Jez Williams](/source/Jez_Williams). ==History== The threesome met at school in 1985 and became regulars at [The Haçienda](/source/The_Ha%C3%A7ienda) while composing their own material together. They had an underground [12"](/source/Gramophone_record) [single](/source/single_(music)) ("Space Face" in 1991) and moderate commercial success in the early 1990s on [Rob Gretton](/source/Rob_Gretton)'s label [Rob's Records](/source/Rob's_Records), including the single "[Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)](/source/Ain't_No_Love_(Ain't_No_Use))" (featuring guest vocalist [Melanie Williams](/source/Melanie_Williams)) which reached No. 3 on the [UK Singles Chart](/source/UK_Singles_Chart).{{cite book | first= David | last= Roberts | year= 2006 | title= British Hit Singles & Albums | edition= 19th | publisher= Guinness World Records Limited | location= London | isbn= 1-904994-10-5 | page= 538}} The trio's only album, ''Full Fathom Five'', was released in September 1994. After a fire destroyed their [recording studio](/source/recording_studio) on Blossom Street in the [Ancoats](/source/Ancoats) area of [Manchester](/source/Manchester) on the Williams twins' birthday in 1996, they started as the more [indie](/source/indie_(music))-oriented act [Doves](/source/Doves_(band)) in 1998. An unreleased collection of tracks meant to be featured on the band's second album was issued in 1998 as ''Delta Tapes''. ==Discography== ===Albums=== {| class="wikitable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center;" border="1" |+ List of albums, with selected chart positions ! scope="col" rowspan="2" style="width:12em;" | Title ! scope="col" rowspan="2" style="width:16em;" | Album details ! scope="col" colspan="1" | Peak chart
positions |- ! scope="col" style="width:3em; font-size:85%" | [AUS](/source/ARIA_Charts)
{{cite web|url= https://imgur.com/a/ewOmpuu | title= Sub Sub ARIA chart history to 2024|publisher=ARIA|via=Imgur.com|access-date=26 July 2024}} N.B. The High Point number in the NAT column represents the release's peak on the national chart. |- ! scope="row" | ''Full Fathom Five'' | * Released: September 1994{{cite book|title=[The Virgin Encyclopedia of Dance Music](/source/Encyclopedia_of_Popular_Music)|editor=[Colin Larkin](/source/Colin_Larkin_(writer))|publisher=[Virgin Books](/source/Virgin_Books)|date=1998|edition=First|isbn=0-7535-0252-6|page=327}} * Label: [Rob's Records](/source/Rob's_Records) | 159 |- ! scope="row" | ''Delta Tapes'' | * Released: February 1998 * Label: Cortex Records | — |} ===Singles=== {| class="wikitable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center;" |- ! rowspan="2"| Year ! rowspan="2"| Single ! colspan="5"| Peak chart positions ! rowspan="2"| Album |- ! width="35"| [UK](/source/UK_Singles_Chart)
{{cite web|url=http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/sub%20sub/|title=Sub Sub - UK Chart |publisher=The Official Charts Company |accessdate=15 October 2014}} ! width="35"| [AUS](/source/ARIA_Charts)
{{cite web|url=http://australian-charts.com/search.asp?cat=s&artist=sub+sub&artist_search=starts&title=&title_search=starts |title=Sub Sub - Australian chart |website=Australian-charts.com |accessdate=15 October 2014}} ! width="35"| [BEL
(FL)](/source/Ultratop)
{{cite web|url=http://www.ultratop.be/nl/search.asp?lang=nl&cat=s&artist=sub+sub&artist_search=starts&title=&title_search=starts |title=Sub Sub - Belgian Chart |website=Ultratop.be |accessdate=15 October 2014}} ! width="35"| [IRE](/source/Irish_Singles_Chart)
{{cite web|url=http://www.irishcharts.ie/search/placement|title=Search Sub Sub in Artist|website=irishcharts.ie|access-date=19 October 2022}} ! width="35"| [NED](/source/Dutch_Single_Top_100)
{{cite web|url=http://dutchcharts.nl/search.asp?cat=s&artist=sub+sub&artist_search=starts&title=&title_search=starts |title=Sub Sub - Dutch chart |date=15 October 2014|website=Dutchcharts.nl}} |- | 1991 ! scope="row"| "Space Face" | — || — || — || — || — | align="left"|Single only |- | 1992 ! scope="row"| ''Coast EP'' | — || — || — || — || — | align="left" rowspan="5"| ''Full Fathom Five'' |- | 1993 ! scope="row"| "[Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)](/source/Ain't_No_Love_(Ain't_No_Use))" (feat. [Melanie Williams](/source/Melanie_Williams)) | 3 || 11 || 47 || 13 || 18 |- | rowspan="2"|1994 ! scope="row"| "Respect" | 49 || 104 || — || — || — |- ! scope="row"| "Angel" | 88 || 198 || — || — || — |- | 1995 ! scope="row"| "Southern Trees" | — || — || — || — || — |- | 1996 ! scope="row"| "Smoking Beagles" (with [Tricky](/source/Tricky_(musician))) | — || — || — || — || — | align="left" rowspan="2"| ''Delta Tapes'' |- | 1997 ! scope="row"| "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (with [Bernard Sumner](/source/Bernard_Sumner)) | 78 || — || — || — || — |- | align="center" colspan="16" style="font-size:85%"| "—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released. |} ==References== {{Reflist}} ==External links== * [http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sub+Sub Complete Sub Sub discography at Discogs.com] * [https://web.archive.org/web/20070704180430/http://www.mounsey.co.uk/sub-sub_delta_tapes.html Accurate and up to date info finding Sub Sub's "Delta Tapes" on CD] {{Doves}} {{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Sub, Sub}} Category:English dance music groups Category:English house music groups Category:Musical groups from Cheshire Category:Musical groups from Manchester Category:Madchester groups Category:Alternative dance musical groups Category:English musical trios --- Adapted from the Wikipedia article [Sub Sub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_Sub) by Wikipedia contributors ([contributor history](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_Sub?action=history)). Available under [Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/). Changes may have been made.