# ...(And That's No Lie)
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{{Infobox song
| name = ...(And That's No Lie)
| cover = Heaven-17-and-thats-no-lie-single.jpg
| alt =
| type = single
| artist = [Heaven 17](/source/Heaven_17)
| album = [How Men Are](/source/How_Men_Are)
| B-side = The Fuse
| released = 7 January 1985
| recorded =
| studio =
| venue =
| genre = * [Synth-pop](/source/Synth-pop)
* [new wave](/source/New_wave_music)
| length = 3:25
| label = [Virgin](/source/Virgin_Records)
| writer = * [Glenn Gregory](/source/Glenn_Gregory)
* [Ian Craig Marsh](/source/Ian_Craig_Marsh)
* [Martyn Ware](/source/Martyn_Ware)
| producer = * Martyn Ware
* Greg Walsh
| prev_title = [This Is Mine](/source/This_Is_Mine)
| prev_year = 1984
| next_title = [The Foolish Thing to Do](/source/The_Foolish_Thing_to_Do)
| next_year = 1986
| misc = {{External music video|{{YouTube|o5EB5utHdQY|"...(And That's No Lie)"}}}}
}}
"'''...(And That's No Lie)'''" is a song by the English [synth-pop](/source/synth-pop) band [Heaven 17](/source/Heaven_17), released on 7 January 1985 by [Virgin Records](/source/Virgin_Records) as the third single from their third studio album, ''[How Men Are](/source/How_Men_Are)'' (1984).[{{cite magazine |title=New Singles |magazine=[Music Week](/source/Music_Week) |date=5 January 1985 |page=8 |issn=0265-1548}}] The song was written by [Glenn Gregory](/source/Glenn_Gregory), [Ian Craig Marsh](/source/Ian_Craig_Marsh) and [Martyn Ware](/source/Martyn_Ware), and produced by Ware and Greg Walsh. It reached number 52 in the [UK singles chart](/source/UK_singles_chart) and remained in the top 100 for five weeks.[{{cite web|url=http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/18889/heaven-17/|publisher=officialcharts.com|title=HEAVEN 17 | full Official Chart History | Official Charts Company|access-date=9 November 2016}}] A [music video](/source/music_video) was filmed to promote the single.
In the UK, the 12-inch single was issued in five different sleeves.[{{cite web|url=http://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-And-Thats-No-Lie/release/2127641 |title=Heaven 17 - ...(And That's No Lie) (Vinyl) at Discogs |publisher=[Discogs](/source/Discogs)|access-date=12 August 2011 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20121111095121/http://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-And-Thats-No-Lie/release/2127641 |archive-date=11 November 2012 |url-status=live }}] All track listings were the same, except on the fifth and final 12-inch variation, which contains the exclusive "The Heaven 17 Megamix". It features extracts of "[This Is Mine](/source/This_Is_Mine)", "[Crushed by the Wheels of Industry](/source/Crushed_by_the_Wheels_of_Industry)", "[The Height of the Fighting (He-La-Hu)](/source/The_Height_of_the_Fighting_(He-La-Hu))", "Penthouse and Pavement", "[Temptation](/source/Temptation_(Heaven_17_song))", "[I'm Your Money](/source/I'm_Your_Money)" and "Play to Win".
== Critical reception ==
On its release as a single, Martin Townsend of ''[Number One](/source/Number_One_(magazine))'' picked "...(And That's No Lie)" as joint "single of the week" and predicted it would be a minor hit. He considered it to be "a densely melodic 7-inch and a truly awesome ten-minute ride on the 12-inch".[{{cite magazine |last=Townsend |first=Martin |date=12 January 1985 |title=Singles |magazine=[Number One](/source/Number_One_(magazine)) |page=36}}] Mike Gardiner of ''[Record Mirror](/source/Record_Mirror)'' felt it was "another disappointing release from a group who should know better". He compared the song to "looking at a construction site" which is "messy, noisy, a lot of activity but the building's only half complete".[{{cite magazine |last=Gardiner |first=Mike |date=12 January 1985 |title=Singles |magazine=[Record Mirror](/source/Record_Mirror) |page=6}}] Danny Kelly of ''[NME](/source/NME)'' commented, "This highlights the oft forgotten melodic strengths of Heaven 17 but are we really expected to get excited about a three minute edit from a ten minute track, the fourth A side from a non too thrilling LP?" He questioned how successful the single would be in the charts, but noted the "nice sleeve".[{{cite magazine |last=Kelly |first=Danny |date=12 January 1985 |title=Singles |magazine=[NME](/source/NME) |page=16}}]
DJ Mark Hollis, writing for the ''[Daily Mirror](/source/Daily_Mirror)'' stated, "Heaven 17 disappointed me with this on first hearing. Maybe a few plays will change that."[{{cite news |last=Hollis |first=Mark |date=7 January 1985 |title=Mark Hollis's Top Tips |newspaper=[Daily Mirror](/source/Daily_Mirror) |page=7}}] Frank Edmonds of the ''[Bury Free Press](/source/Yattendon_Group)'' gave the song a 5 out of 10 rating and wrote, "After two great singles this is pretty damn boring."[{{cite news |last=Edmonds |first=Frank |date=18 January 1985 |title=Soundscene |newspaper=[Bury Free Press](/source/Yattendon_Group) |page=10}}] In a retrospective review of ''How Men Are'', [Aaron Badgley](/source/Aaron_Badgley) of [AllMusic](/source/AllMusic) picked the song as a "highlight", describing it as "very long but very wonderful". He noted the "strong melody", "stunning vocals" and "tight production".[{{cite web |last=Badgley |first=Aaron |author-link=Aaron Badgley |url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/how-men-are-mw0000742447 |title=How Men Are - Heaven 17 |publisher=[AllMusic](/source/AllMusic) |access-date=4 June 2022}}]
== Formats and track listings ==
'''7-inch single'''
# "...(And That's No Lie)" – 3:25
# "The Fuse" – 3:53
'''12-inch single'''
# "...(And That's No Lie)" (Re-mixed to Enhance its Danceability) – 6:10
# "The Fuse" (LP version) – 3:05
# "...(And That's No Lie)" (LP version) – 10:02
'''12-inch single (UK 5/5 release)'''
# "...(And That's No Lie)" (Re-mixed to Enhance its Danceability) – 6:10
# "The Fuse" (LP version) – 3:05
# "The Heaven 17 Megamix" – 8:28
== Personnel ==
Credits sourced from the original album liner notes.
'''Heaven 17'''
* [Glenn Gregory](/source/Glenn_Gregory) – lead and backing vocals
* [Martyn Ware](/source/Martyn_Ware) – [LinnDrum](/source/LinnDrum) programming, backing vocals, producer
* [Ian Craig Marsh](/source/Ian_Craig_Marsh) – [Fairlight CMI](/source/Fairlight_CMI) synthesizer
'''Additional personnel'''
* Greg Walsh – producer
* Nick Plytas – piano
* [Ray Russell](/source/Ray_Russell_(musician)) – guitars
* John Wilson – bass guitar
* David Cullen – orchestral arrangements and conductor
* [Afrodiziak](/source/Afrodiziak) – backing vocals
* Sanny X – remixer of "The Heaven 17 Megamix"
== Charts ==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Chart (1985)
! Peak
position
|-
| align="left" | [Irish Singles Chart](/source/Irish_Singles_Chart)[{{cite web|author=Jaclyn Ward |url=http://www.irishcharts.ie/ |title=The Irish Charts - All there is to know |publisher=Irishcharts.ie |access-date=12 August 2011 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20100126040745/http://www.irishcharts.ie/ |archivedate=26 January 2010 |url-status=live }}]
| style="text-align:center;" | 22
|-
| align="left" | [UK singles chart](/source/UK_singles_chart)